I am so very glad that we present-day Americans don’t have to contend with a history of repeated injuries, usurpations, abuses and/or absolute Despotism by our rulers.
Yes, the Gadsden is still flying--a bit ragged, but still there.
Mrs Sven and I have been discussing options regarding the slew of upcoming gun laws that will make us criminals if we don’t comply. Not quite sure what to do there.
On another note, you often hear about the schism between Second Amendment proponents and hunters--that hunters arent much interested in anti-gun/gun control laws because they rarely impact them directly. Well, this bullet background check-registry is going to hit them as well.
Happy Independence Day, Gerbil Nation!
Good morning, Fatwa, and Sven!
I haven’t checked the text of all of the anti-2nd Amendment bills signed by Gov. Moonbeam, but I wonder if the background check applies to reloading components? I think the whole background check thing will have much more of an impact on most gun owners than any of the previous restrictions.
I read earlier this morning that some folks out in CA are in favor of simple defiance of the new laws, much as has recently occurred in NY and NJ.
I certainly support that sort of civil disobedience, but it is also a dead (no pun intended) certainty that eventually some people will go to prison and some will be murdered by the State.
However, in contrast with twenty years ago, the news propaganda no longer has a handful of gatekeepers who can be controlled with relative ease.
I really hate the position our rulers are increasingly putting us in. Doling out their comeuppance will be ugly and innocents will be caught in the middle; I resent our self-appointed betters deeply for that as well.
If these laws go into effect, there will be a lot of noncompliance. But what happens if you are caught? If convicted, even if it’s just a fine, that conviction is now on your record and it might very well mean that you lose all your guns.
If you go the noncompliance route, then you have to go all the way. Recognize that you are now in possession of illegal contraband and behave accordingly. Bury it and never talk about it.
I’m thinking that between now and enactment, it’s time to stock up on ammunition. And that’s going to take money, some of which would have been donated to charitable organizations. And every time from here on out that one of these charities calls, I’m going to tell them exactly why I can no longer afford to donate. In fact, I may sign up for a bunch of charitable orgs, give them the minimum now, and then let them call later asking for more. Perhaps the message will get through.
Recognize that you are now in possession of illegal contraband and behave accordingly. Bury it and never talk about it.
So very sorry to read about your gun-related canoeing mishap, Sven. Such a shame; tsk. 👿
I rather like your idea re charitable organizations; especially if enough CA gun folks join in that they hear the same excuse more than a couple of times.
Paddy --
You can imagine my shock that a Democrat-led Congress would fark-over people of color seventy years ago. Cheers for researching that.
I have been assuming that the upgrade to felony charges for falsely reporting a gun loss or theft of a gun was because of those “boating accidents” that are littering our lakes and rivers with ordinance.
If those weapons and ammo were “accidentally” lost in the Pacific years ago, they’d be good enhancements for the environment re corals and other aquatic life. And looking for them would disturb the reefs, no?
If you have stuff that is unknown to the state of CA, then it can just be hidden. If it is known, or maybe possibly known, well then you have fewer options.
In terms of canoeing accidents, the risk you run is with this one:
AB 1695 (Bonta): AB 1695 would make it a misdemeanor to report to a local law enforcement agency that a firearm has been lost or stolen, knowing the report to be false and create a 10-year firearm prohibition for someone convicted of this offense.
What’s funny is that liberal types are also in an uproar out here over a vaccination bill that went into effect July 1:
“No longer can parents choose not to vaccinate their children citing a personal belief.”
Your options if you oppose?
“Parents can still get a medical exemption from their doctor. The only other options parents have, if they chose not to vaccinate their children, are to tutor them at home or leave the state.”
Most people that I know that oppose vaccinations are from the left side of the political spectrum. They feel completely betrayed by Gov. Moonbeam.
Thank you, Sven. I guess I was thinking of the penalty for stealing a gun, which I think became a felony.
If the state does not know about the gun but it comes to light during a search or it is stolen and traces back to you, you might be in trouble. People with kids would have to be concerned about interrogation of their children without them present, and of course almost anything justifies a search, or nothing.
The right to choose only applies to liberals’ choices, and only if you follow the party line. You can kill your children on a whim but you can’t let them play outside or decide not to vaccinate them. Killing your unborn is almost holy but smoking tobacco while pregnant?
In California, the Second Amendment has been getting a beating on a regular basis. The old tactics of fighting it out in court just don’t work. Even when we win, there’s no repercussions on those that passed the laws in the first place, and winning takes years. And the way the courts are, you never know what’s going to happen.
There has to be a way to make it painful for those that support gun control now, but without proper and coordinated support, that’s not too feasible. At least that I can see.
I keep thinking that the problem lies in our approach, attacking only when attacked, and focusing only on the Second Amendment. Thinking this through, but Alinsky comes to mind more often than not.
You sign gun control bills; we go after any other legislation or initiatives that you have, doesn’t matter what it is. Law enforcement and govt agencies are always exempt from these types of laws--if you own a gun range, tell them they are no longer welcome. Sorry. Push ammunition manufacturers to no longer accept purchase orders from California.
I was scheduled for a heart stress test on the 18th to see if I have partial blockages (the one they cleared was 100% blocked and had to be done as an emergency but he said there were probably two others). I put it off as I got a jury duty notice for that day.
Because of that I was thinking today about jury nullification and how that was a check on government abuse that was so hated by judges (showing why it was needed) and that got me thinking about the government officers’ authority under the Constitution and how that made them no better than gangsters with guns and thugs when they moved beyond that lawful authority. Looking at our situation today in that light was just damned depressing for a 4th of July. I am having a hard time thinking of any federal agency or department that was legal today, even one.
Sad. So glad I don’t have kids. How could I explain what we were given and what we let slip through our fingers.
Sven, one of the few successful offensive campaigns would be the fight for shall issue carry permits. I think there are 40 states now. For a time the Democrats did notice anti-gun legislators getting the boot and kept a lower profile but the attack through education indoctrination, dumming young people down, and propaganda, seems to be taking care of that. Sheep will just not rise up or work together.
It is depressing, Mac, but there you go. We are where we are, and all we can do anymore is stay true to our own beliefs and the Founder’s vision.
We’ve talked about getting out of California, and “they” would be more than happy to see us go. Our most productive years are behind us--they’ve sucked their revenue from us in the form of taxes for the last 45 years and they’ll only get another ten or so years from us at reduced rates. And then we’ll be a drain on the system. They want us gone.
I’m thinking more along the lines now of staying here and sucking them dry. Sign up for every single govt assistance program there is whether we need it or not.
When you do take that test, good luck and praying for good results. Hope Elena is doing well.
I’d like the NRA to ask its members to boycott California completely. No more Disneyland; no more Hollywood; no more Sea World.
My thoughts keep coming back to Robert Levy, the guy that organized and bankrolled the Parker-Heller case. Not a gun owner, not a Second Amendment guy. Just someone that believed in individual rights.
Thank you, Sir. Elena is doing well, no longer using even the cane. She had her last PT session last Thursday. Just a long process of gaining strength and confidence with time and use.
I have not shared all my concerns with her as she would worry and that would not help. She is getting some ideas as I am pushing her to learn the things she will need when I am gone. We are having sessions and she is taking notes. She knows enough to take it seriously.
Mac -- don’t put off that stress test. Get it done and deal with the results. Don’t make me send RabBiT after you!
Sven -- after that ten or so years of diminished productivity (I’m already experiencing the diminished income and I know it won’t get significantly better), I plan to take all I can from the state teacher’s retirement system. I know of more than one teacher who has retired to another state, allowing them to live high on the hog with their generous pension. Mine will never get to that point, but I plan taking all that I can.
Their faith in the former Linda Ronstadt-porking, lifetime public teat-sucker is hilarious. Sooner or later, nearly all politicians will betray their constituents.
In re telling LEOs and other government tools they’re no longer welcome at one’s range, never forget that they’re thin-skinned, have an entitlement mentality, a union, the backing of the government and can generally get away with doing anything they want to you, up to and including assault and murder, with little or no consequence.
“He made a furtive move.”
“He reached for his waistband.”
“I was in fear for my life.”
When they lie in reports and/or perjure themselves -- even when there’s clear proof of that such as video which contradicts their narrative -- they can usually get away with it.
Paddy, I already told Elena that if I need more stents, I am not going back in anyway, at least not this year. I do want to know so I can adjust accordingly. The test is moved to the 29th with the warning I could have to put it off if picked for a jury. That is probably not likely. No one wants me, on either side.
Time to light up teh grill. I gave my Weber kettle charcoal grill to the inlaws and bought a gas grill. Takes some getting used to, but considerably more convenient.
Happy Independence Day, Wheelizens!
I am so very glad that we present-day Americans don’t have to contend with a history of repeated injuries, usurpations, abuses and/or absolute Despotism by our rulers.
*Whew*
Marketing opportunity for next Independence Day: Guy Fawkes Brand™ Fireworks. 👿
Bitter sarcasm and heat-of-a-thousand-suns rage aside, I hope that all of you have a lovely day.
Good morning and Happy 4th!
Hai, Sven!
Are you flying your Gadsden flag today? 😉
Kindly give our regards to Mrs. Sven.
Hi Fatwa,
Yes, the Gadsden is still flying--a bit ragged, but still there.
Mrs Sven and I have been discussing options regarding the slew of upcoming gun laws that will make us criminals if we don’t comply. Not quite sure what to do there.
On another note, you often hear about the schism between Second Amendment proponents and hunters--that hunters arent much interested in anti-gun/gun control laws because they rarely impact them directly. Well, this bullet background check-registry is going to hit them as well.
Best to Miss Brenda and her google eyes.
SDMF indeed.
Happy Independence Day, Gerbil Nation!
Good morning, Fatwa, and Sven!
I haven’t checked the text of all of the anti-2nd Amendment bills signed by Gov. Moonbeam, but I wonder if the background check applies to reloading components? I think the whole background check thing will have much more of an impact on most gun owners than any of the previous restrictions.
Hi Paddy,
I was talking to a friend of mine who says that law (Senate Bill 1235) does not apply to reloading components, so that’s one way around it. For now.
Hai, Paddy!
I read earlier this morning that some folks out in CA are in favor of simple defiance of the new laws, much as has recently occurred in NY and NJ.
I certainly support that sort of civil disobedience, but it is also a dead (no pun intended) certainty that eventually some people will go to prison and some will be murdered by the State.
However, in contrast with twenty years ago, the
newspropaganda no longer has a handful of gatekeepers who can be controlled with relative ease.I really hate the position our rulers are increasingly putting us in. Doling out their comeuppance will be ugly and innocents will be caught in the middle; I resent our self-appointed betters deeply for that as well.
If these laws go into effect, there will be a lot of noncompliance. But what happens if you are caught? If convicted, even if it’s just a fine, that conviction is now on your record and it might very well mean that you lose all your guns.
If you go the noncompliance route, then you have to go all the way. Recognize that you are now in possession of illegal contraband and behave accordingly. Bury it and never talk about it.
I’m thinking that between now and enactment, it’s time to stock up on ammunition. And that’s going to take money, some of which would have been donated to charitable organizations. And every time from here on out that one of these charities calls, I’m going to tell them exactly why I can no longer afford to donate. In fact, I may sign up for a bunch of charitable orgs, give them the minimum now, and then let them call later asking for more. Perhaps the message will get through.
I think this is well worth a read.
Thank you, Fatwa. It is indeed worth reading. Best thing I have read in a while.
Thanks Fatwa--I’d forgotten about Popehat. Good stuff.
Thank you, Fatwa. I looked up the make-up of Congress in 1946 -- Democrats had solid majorities in both houses.
Hai, Mac!
So very sorry to read about your gun-related canoeing mishap, Sven. Such a shame; tsk. 👿
I rather like your idea re charitable organizations; especially if enough CA gun folks join in that they hear the same excuse more than a couple of times.
Paddy --
You can imagine my shock that a Democrat-led Congress would fark-over people of color seventy years ago. Cheers for researching that.
I have been assuming that the upgrade to felony charges for falsely reporting a gun loss or theft of a gun was because of those “boating accidents” that are littering our lakes and rivers with ordinance.
People should use that same reason when asked for money by their political parties as well.
Mac --
Heh for both your 4:42 and 4:46 thoughts.
If those weapons and ammo were “accidentally” lost in the Pacific years ago, they’d be good enhancements for the environment re corals and other aquatic life. And looking for them would disturb the reefs, no?
If you have stuff that is unknown to the state of CA, then it can just be hidden. If it is known, or maybe possibly known, well then you have fewer options.
In terms of canoeing accidents, the risk you run is with this one:
AB 1695 (Bonta): AB 1695 would make it a misdemeanor to report to a local law enforcement agency that a firearm has been lost or stolen, knowing the report to be false and create a 10-year firearm prohibition for someone convicted of this offense.
What’s funny is that liberal types are also in an uproar out here over a vaccination bill that went into effect July 1:
“No longer can parents choose not to vaccinate their children citing a personal belief.”
Your options if you oppose?
“Parents can still get a medical exemption from their doctor. The only other options parents have, if they chose not to vaccinate their children, are to tutor them at home or leave the state.”
Most people that I know that oppose vaccinations are from the left side of the political spectrum. They feel completely betrayed by Gov. Moonbeam.
http://www.kcra.com/news/law-takes-effect-requires-vaccinations-for-all-california-schoolaged-kids/40322942
Thank you, Sven. I guess I was thinking of the penalty for stealing a gun, which I think became a felony.
If the state does not know about the gun but it comes to light during a search or it is stolen and traces back to you, you might be in trouble. People with kids would have to be concerned about interrogation of their children without them present, and of course almost anything justifies a search, or nothing.
The right to choose only applies to liberals’ choices, and only if you follow the party line. You can kill your children on a whim but you can’t let them play outside or decide not to vaccinate them. Killing your unborn is almost holy but smoking tobacco while pregnant?
In California, the Second Amendment has been getting a beating on a regular basis. The old tactics of fighting it out in court just don’t work. Even when we win, there’s no repercussions on those that passed the laws in the first place, and winning takes years. And the way the courts are, you never know what’s going to happen.
There has to be a way to make it painful for those that support gun control now, but without proper and coordinated support, that’s not too feasible. At least that I can see.
I keep thinking that the problem lies in our approach, attacking only when attacked, and focusing only on the Second Amendment. Thinking this through, but Alinsky comes to mind more often than not.
You sign gun control bills; we go after any other legislation or initiatives that you have, doesn’t matter what it is. Law enforcement and govt agencies are always exempt from these types of laws--if you own a gun range, tell them they are no longer welcome. Sorry. Push ammunition manufacturers to no longer accept purchase orders from California.
I was scheduled for a heart stress test on the 18th to see if I have partial blockages (the one they cleared was 100% blocked and had to be done as an emergency but he said there were probably two others). I put it off as I got a jury duty notice for that day.
Because of that I was thinking today about jury nullification and how that was a check on government abuse that was so hated by judges (showing why it was needed) and that got me thinking about the government officers’ authority under the Constitution and how that made them no better than gangsters with guns and thugs when they moved beyond that lawful authority. Looking at our situation today in that light was just damned depressing for a 4th of July. I am having a hard time thinking of any federal agency or department that was legal today, even one.
Sad. So glad I don’t have kids. How could I explain what we were given and what we let slip through our fingers.
Sven, one of the few successful offensive campaigns would be the fight for shall issue carry permits. I think there are 40 states now. For a time the Democrats did notice anti-gun legislators getting the boot and kept a lower profile but the attack through education indoctrination, dumming young people down, and propaganda, seems to be taking care of that. Sheep will just not rise up or work together.
It is depressing, Mac, but there you go. We are where we are, and all we can do anymore is stay true to our own beliefs and the Founder’s vision.
We’ve talked about getting out of California, and “they” would be more than happy to see us go. Our most productive years are behind us--they’ve sucked their revenue from us in the form of taxes for the last 45 years and they’ll only get another ten or so years from us at reduced rates. And then we’ll be a drain on the system. They want us gone.
I’m thinking more along the lines now of staying here and sucking them dry. Sign up for every single govt assistance program there is whether we need it or not.
When you do take that test, good luck and praying for good results. Hope Elena is doing well.
I’d like the NRA to ask its members to boycott California completely. No more Disneyland; no more Hollywood; no more Sea World.
My thoughts keep coming back to Robert Levy, the guy that organized and bankrolled the Parker-Heller case. Not a gun owner, not a Second Amendment guy. Just someone that believed in individual rights.
Thank you, Sir. Elena is doing well, no longer using even the cane. She had her last PT session last Thursday. Just a long process of gaining strength and confidence with time and use.
I have not shared all my concerns with her as she would worry and that would not help. She is getting some ideas as I am pushing her to learn the things she will need when I am gone. We are having sessions and she is taking notes. She knows enough to take it seriously.
Have a good 4th.
Mac -- don’t put off that stress test. Get it done and deal with the results. Don’t make me send RabBiT after you!
Sven -- after that ten or so years of diminished productivity (I’m already experiencing the diminished income and I know it won’t get significantly better), I plan to take all I can from the state teacher’s retirement system. I know of more than one teacher who has retired to another state, allowing them to live high on the hog with their generous pension. Mine will never get to that point, but I plan taking all that I can.
Just for Sven, since I’m violating the ABC code today anyway.
(Anything But Cats)
Their faith in the former Linda Ronstadt-porking, lifetime public teat-sucker is hilarious. Sooner or later, nearly all politicians will betray their constituents.
In re telling LEOs and other government tools they’re no longer welcome at one’s range, never forget that they’re thin-skinned, have an entitlement mentality, a union, the backing of the government and can generally get away with doing anything they want to you, up to and including assault and murder, with little or no consequence.
“He made a furtive move.”
“He reached for his waistband.”
“I was in fear for my life.”
When they lie in reports and/or perjure themselves -- even when there’s clear proof of that such as video which contradicts their narrative -- they can usually get away with it.
As such, this may not be a good tactic.
Paddy, I already told Elena that if I need more stents, I am not going back in anyway, at least not this year. I do want to know so I can adjust accordingly. The test is moved to the 29th with the warning I could have to put it off if picked for a jury. That is probably not likely. No one wants me, on either side.
Mac --
I’m with Paddy and Sven…get teh stress test, please.
Off to dinner.
Jury nullification is about the last defense we have against an increasingly tyrannical government these days.
Dangerous to invoke it in many places, as most judges are assholes.
As long as you take that stress test, Mac, you can post as many cats as you want, up to and including those silly LolCats that I despise.
But what about a LOLParis? Better?
Time to light up teh grill. I gave my Weber kettle charcoal grill to the inlaws and bought a gas grill. Takes some getting used to, but considerably more convenient.
Good night to all, friends Stay safe.