Well, I did repost it after a fashion, Sven. But in a nutshell, the “key” to all music that we like, or grow to like, is *context*: Where were we when we heard that music, what were we doing, who were we with, what were we thinking? Even: who first explained this sound sequence to us?
Why does 60ies Rock and Roll go together with the sound of helicopters? (Vietnam war, and specifically movies about it)
What does Luke Skywalker have to do with an orchestral passage? Why is a particular orchestral passage “heroic?”
Why do we hear parallel fourths and fifths when we think of ancient Rome?
The general answer is mimetic. Also, the effect of sound on the human nervous system is not entirely random. Some combinations and patterns hit our brains a certain way because of mathematical consistency. So systemicy, symbology, and contextualization all come into play. These types of phenomena are what I have observed. There are probably more elements.
But we begin to love specific music or a specific type of music the first moment we make our very first such connection.
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That’s more or less an expansion of the post for which the other post was a contraction. Enjoy! (or not : )
Well that sucks… I was four paragraphs into a reply and then lost it all. This topic may be jinxed.
My gist is that although art in its many forms exists on its own regardless of its creator, it is becoming increasingly hard to separate the art from the artist, especially when the availability of art is so much greater than it was 50 years ago. So much art, so little time.
As good as Steve Earle’s new album may or may not be, I’ll just have to get by without it. I come from a long line of grudge holders and anyone that despises me and my beliefs, well, I just don’t feel the need to support them financially. Am I losing out on some good experiences? Probably, but so it goes.
it is increasingly difficult to separate the art from the artist, especially when they won’t STFU. It’s really too bad too, because we all would like to hear what the artist thinks about his art, or art in general. That would be interesting.
What is not interesting is “Orange man bad; that’s why we need communism.”
anyway, my meta point is that context is what is needed for classical music appreciation. That, in essence, is why there are “opera appreciation” and “music appreciation” courses. Having taken one for opera, I can vouch for their efficacy.
Sure Happy It’s Thursday, Gerbil Nation!
Good morning, Fatwa, and Sven!
We had an admin meeting yesterday where we discussed the coronavirus and how it might affect our operations. A number of charter schools have been contemplating having students move to independent study, but if their charter doesn’t already address that, then it’s not a simple move. By the time they get approval, the virus will have died off. Since we are an independent study school, there’s no change. The biggest potential impact for us is on mandatory state testing. Fortunately we aren’t scheduled to test until early to mid May.
Spring quarter classes for Teh Older will all be held online. That should be interesting.
Good storm today -- really coming down hard. One oak tree on our street already gave up its ghost and crashed down on the roadway blocking that way in.
It is full panic mode out here. Teh bestest place ever is likely to shut down its headquarters next week and have its 900 employees work remote. Not that that has ever been tested through IT, not that everyone has a laptop or remote capability, but there you go. Glad I don’t work the help desk.
Just heard from a friend that another local business sent its 2100 employees home to work remote.
Jack Tatum is home, so that’s a bit of goodness. He’s quite unhappy with the weather and quite vocal about it. He’s a mess from his late night adventures the last several weeks, but nothing seems infected -- just a huge mass of scabs on his head and neck.
nevermind, I found it. It was invisible because I usually blow up the site so I can more easily read it on my right hand monitor. I just thought of that, and checked. I was trying to look up posts relating to “Jack Tatum.”
Thursday salutations, Wheelizens!
I see SoCal has (at least) another nine days of wet weather in the forecast; teh yay for opportunity! 🙂
(Which is also a bit overwhelming; wish more people heeded our roofing advice when it isn’t raining, but I can’t “fix” that.)
Sven --
Criminy; hugs and good thoughts from Brenda and me.
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Thanks to Yankee ingenuity, a weapon against coronavirus:
Good morning -- rain, the stock market tanking, AND a virus -- just another day in Trump’s America.
My thing that could not wait will have to wait as my doctor called last night and cancelled due to his illness.
Thanks for the prayers guys -- I’m just being whiny. Heading in to work to see what great plans teh bestest place ever will try out today.
Dv8 -- if you ever find that post that disappeared, please re-post -- I’d like to read your take.
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Well, I did repost it after a fashion, Sven. But in a nutshell, the “key” to all music that we like, or grow to like, is *context*: Where were we when we heard that music, what were we doing, who were we with, what were we thinking? Even: who first explained this sound sequence to us?
Why does 60ies Rock and Roll go together with the sound of helicopters? (Vietnam war, and specifically movies about it)
What does Luke Skywalker have to do with an orchestral passage? Why is a particular orchestral passage “heroic?”
Why do we hear parallel fourths and fifths when we think of ancient Rome?
The general answer is mimetic. Also, the effect of sound on the human nervous system is not entirely random. Some combinations and patterns hit our brains a certain way because of mathematical consistency. So systemicy, symbology, and contextualization all come into play. These types of phenomena are what I have observed. There are probably more elements.
But we begin to love specific music or a specific type of music the first moment we make our very first such connection.
[/wall of text]
That’s more or less an expansion of the post for which the other post was a contraction. Enjoy! (or not : )
Well that sucks… I was four paragraphs into a reply and then lost it all. This topic may be jinxed.
My gist is that although art in its many forms exists on its own regardless of its creator, it is becoming increasingly hard to separate the art from the artist, especially when the availability of art is so much greater than it was 50 years ago. So much art, so little time.
As good as Steve Earle’s new album may or may not be, I’ll just have to get by without it. I come from a long line of grudge holders and anyone that despises me and my beliefs, well, I just don’t feel the need to support them financially. Am I losing out on some good experiences? Probably, but so it goes.
by the way, I just found out that a couple of different dudes finally wrote alternatives to the addon “Lazarus.”
These will save text in your text fields in case of a disaster. Harper loved Lazarus, and now there are a couple of new versions.
These are
Recover-E by Mor Shemesh
and
Form History Control by Stephan Mahieu
These are available free on the firefox addon store.
Checking chrome store:
Typio Form Recovery by Nicklas Sandell
and
Simple Form Recovery by kornflake
Cool. For the longest time, there were no alternatives/replacements for Lazarus.
it is increasingly difficult to separate the art from the artist, especially when they won’t STFU. It’s really too bad too, because we all would like to hear what the artist thinks about his art, or art in general. That would be interesting.
What is not interesting is “Orange man bad; that’s why we need communism.”
anyway, my meta point is that context is what is needed for classical music appreciation. That, in essence, is why there are “opera appreciation” and “music appreciation” courses. Having taken one for opera, I can vouch for their efficacy.
Sure Happy It’s Thursday, Gerbil Nation!
Good morning, Fatwa, and Sven!
We had an admin meeting yesterday where we discussed the coronavirus and how it might affect our operations. A number of charter schools have been contemplating having students move to independent study, but if their charter doesn’t already address that, then it’s not a simple move. By the time they get approval, the virus will have died off. Since we are an independent study school, there’s no change. The biggest potential impact for us is on mandatory state testing. Fortunately we aren’t scheduled to test until early to mid May.
Spring quarter classes for Teh Older will all be held online. That should be interesting.
Good storm today -- really coming down hard. One oak tree on our street already gave up its ghost and crashed down on the roadway blocking that way in.
It is full panic mode out here. Teh bestest place ever is likely to shut down its headquarters next week and have its 900 employees work remote. Not that that has ever been tested through IT, not that everyone has a laptop or remote capability, but there you go. Glad I don’t work the help desk.
Just heard from a friend that another local business sent its 2100 employees home to work remote.
Jack Tatum is home, so that’s a bit of goodness. He’s quite unhappy with the weather and quite vocal about it. He’s a mess from his late night adventures the last several weeks, but nothing seems infected -- just a huge mass of scabs on his head and neck.
Speak of the devil -- he just woke up.
Does the Wheel have a search function? I’m not sure where to look
nevermind, I found it. It was invisible because I usually blow up the site so I can more easily read it on my right hand monitor. I just thought of that, and checked. I was trying to look up posts relating to “Jack Tatum.”
Thanks to the search function, I have now read the Jack Tatum Chronicles, so I am fully up to speed.