The first -- and probably last -- Presidential Debate is over and it was everything you could expect, and less. Joe didn’t sundown, so my bet is that his campaign will cancel the remaining two debates. There was no fact-checking this time, so any lies stood. I wonder (not) how the MSM will spin it?
It was bad -- Wallace is getting, justifiably, a lot of bad reviews as moderator. If there are more debates, I hope Trump learned something from last night.
Hot already -- creeping up to 95. Never cooled down -- at 5:30 this morning the outdoor temperature was 86. As long as we don’t get any strong winds, we should be OK re: fires.
It did get down to 72 this morning, but I had to close up the house by 7:30. Only light winds, thankfully. California certainly doesn’t need any more fires.
Lots of talk about the “white supremacist” threat to America during the last several months and during last night’s debate. It’s all bullshit tied to the ADL, SPLC, lefties, and a leaked DHS draft report from last month. Link to the report’s highlights: https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/white-supremacists-election/
For one thing, the supposed threat from white supremacists is for “lethal violence.” And how prevalent are these types of murders? A stunning 329 murders in the last 25 years. That’s about 6 months worth of murders in Chicago. Sorry, hard to get worked up over that and to see it as a serious threat when more than 12,000 people are murdered in America every single year.
The ADL is worse in how they describe white supremacist killings. The fact that someone espoused a white supremacist view at some time in their lives doesn’t mean that white supremacy was the motive in the killing. For instance, the ADL’s Murder and Extremism in the US 2019 cites this killing in their stats: “Anthony Voight, a member of the white supremacist Aryan Brotherhood of Texas, was arrested for the shooting murder of a man who accompanied Voight’s ex-girlfriend to retrieve her belongings from Voight’s home.” Really? No other possible motive there?
Or this one: “White supremacist James Thomas Seay, who has been active in various
Ku Klux Klan and neo-Nazi groups, was charged with second-degree murder for the shooting death of his uncle. A possible motive has not been reported.”
Or: In two separate incidents, Devin Campbell and Christopher Ashoff, members of the Aryan Warriors, a Nevada-based white supremacist prison gang, shot people to death. On January
22, they allegedly killed two men, Josue Lizardo Contreras-Verdin and David Esparza-Sanchez, in what may have been a drug-related murder. Less than a week later, for reasons unspecified, they allegedly stabbed a homeless man to death.”
These people sound like violent criminal assholes, not necessarily “white supremacists.” But as usual, why let facts get in the way of a favorite narrative.
Happy *smish* Wednesday, Gerbil Nation!
The first -- and probably last -- Presidential Debate is over and it was everything you could expect, and less. Joe didn’t sundown, so my bet is that his campaign will cancel the remaining two debates. There was no fact-checking this time, so any lies stood. I wonder (not) how the MSM will spin it?
It was bad -- Wallace is getting, justifiably, a lot of bad reviews as moderator. If there are more debates, I hope Trump learned something from last night.
Good morning, GN! Hello, Paddy! Happy last day of September!
BTW, nice thread pic.
Hot already -- creeping up to 95. Never cooled down -- at 5:30 this morning the outdoor temperature was 86. As long as we don’t get any strong winds, we should be OK re: fires.
It did get down to 72 this morning, but I had to close up the house by 7:30. Only light winds, thankfully. California certainly doesn’t need any more fires.
What shows America’s greatness more than a 20-year old French girl playing a song from that lil ol band from Texas:
Lots of talk about the “white supremacist” threat to America during the last several months and during last night’s debate. It’s all bullshit tied to the ADL, SPLC, lefties, and a leaked DHS draft report from last month. Link to the report’s highlights: https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/white-supremacists-election/
For one thing, the supposed threat from white supremacists is for “lethal violence.” And how prevalent are these types of murders? A stunning 329 murders in the last 25 years. That’s about 6 months worth of murders in Chicago. Sorry, hard to get worked up over that and to see it as a serious threat when more than 12,000 people are murdered in America every single year.
The ADL is worse in how they describe white supremacist killings. The fact that someone espoused a white supremacist view at some time in their lives doesn’t mean that white supremacy was the motive in the killing. For instance, the ADL’s Murder and Extremism in the US 2019 cites this killing in their stats: “Anthony Voight, a member of the white supremacist Aryan Brotherhood of Texas, was arrested for the shooting murder of a man who accompanied Voight’s ex-girlfriend to retrieve her belongings from Voight’s home.” Really? No other possible motive there?
Or this one: “White supremacist James Thomas Seay, who has been active in various
Ku Klux Klan and neo-Nazi groups, was charged with second-degree murder for the shooting death of his uncle. A possible motive has not been reported.”
Or: In two separate incidents, Devin Campbell and Christopher Ashoff, members of the Aryan Warriors, a Nevada-based white supremacist prison gang, shot people to death. On January
22, they allegedly killed two men, Josue Lizardo Contreras-Verdin and David Esparza-Sanchez, in what may have been a drug-related murder. Less than a week later, for reasons unspecified, they allegedly stabbed a homeless man to death.”
These people sound like violent criminal assholes, not necessarily “white supremacists.” But as usual, why let facts get in the way of a favorite narrative.
Oh, FFS. These people must be allergic to the truth.