I don’t know how Mac knows this about our vegetables; we don’t have a “smart fridge” here at CasaK. That’s just eerie…
Proper protocol should call for the complete absence of any cartridges, other than blanks, on a film set. There is absolutely no reason for live ammunition.
I’m certainly no expert, but it seems there are different types of “ammo” used on sets. If there are closeups of a gun being loaded, there are cartridges with the primer and powder removed for just that purpose. Then there are what we commonly think of as “blanks” (which make a bang with muzzle flash and smoke) which appear to look like mini shotshells with crimped wax at the end of the brass and no bullet.
You can bet that whatever did actually occur on the “Rust” set, asses will be covered…especially Arec Barwin’s as the star and producer. (Been interesting to see some of Barwin’s more vicious Tweets about guns / gun owners come back to haunt him.)
FWIW, SiL said that up until last week, crew folks here in ATL have been pressured into working ridiculously long hours and there’s been at least one serious injury as a result of -- in SiL’s considered opinion -- physical and mental exhaustion. (From what we’ve heard about the local situation, I think he’s right.)
There’s no business like show business…amirite?
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Mac’s thread pic makes feel guilty. I promise, vegetables, to do better. Not a joke.
I think Alec Baldwin might not escape this time -- he’s been damaged goods for a while now, and if the left needs a lamb to sacrifice to show how moral they are, he’d make a good one as his usefulness is more or less over.
Has anyone read the report on the mounted Border Patrol agents whipping Haitians? Another incident memory-holed, but I wonder how those particular agents are doing.
Happy Caturday, Gerbil Nation!
Good morning, Fatwa, and Sven!
In re Alec Baldwin: I know that the wadding (wax or paper) in a blank round is enough to cause death if fired into one’s temple, but at any reasonable distance shouldn’t cause any injury. So how is it Alec managed to kill one person and wound another? Of course if proper firearms safety rules were followed, none of this would have occurred.
I heard yesterday that the union crew walked off the set some time ago because of working conditions, including making them drive an hour from the set to their motel rooms in Albuquerque, rather than put them up locally in Santa Fe.
The person controlling firearms and ammunition in a setting where many people are mixing around should be a top professional. I don’t get that impression from what I see so far, but I have seen few details. It just seems unclear if it was being covered by a weapons specialist or a prop master.
“…Most pertinent was their qualms with safety protocols including gun inspections, not being strictly followed on set. At least one of the camera operators reportedly complained last weekend to a production manager about gun safety on the set. The LAT reports that someone on set was alarmed by the prop gun misfires and communicated their concerns to the unit production manager via text message. “We’ve now had 3 accidental discharges. This is super unsafe,” according to a copy of the message reviewed by the LAT.”
It sounds like this low budget film just went WAY over budget. The armorer was a woman who had earlier expressed doubts that she was ready for this but said it was easier than she expected. With three previous discharges it was obviously not as easy as she thought.
The union workers being kicked off set that morning raises eyebrows, but if this is all accurate, the lawyers will be circling like sharks to chum. It reminds me of an accident where a Coke delivery truck’s brakes failed coming into a town. There were rthree waves of lawyers goming into the town. They were stopping people on the streets and asking them if they even knew someone that was hurt, and were they traumatized by that. Even the truck driver ended up suing Coke because he drove a truck with bad brakes. .
I was just reading a couple of articles on the search warrant served on the set. Why would an actor, or anyone else on a set, complain about misfires? This is a movie set in the 19th century. We’re talking single-action revolvers, lever action rifles, and mule-eared double-barreled shotguns. So what if the gun doesn’t go bang when you pull the trigger? It’s not like they need that sound for the final cut. Cock the hammer and fire again, pretending it fired. “[A]ccidental discharges”?? WTH is going on on that set? Given the type of firearms they should have been using, there is no way to have an accidental discharge. Even if the trigger pull was very light, you cocked the weapon and had your finger on the trigger. An AD is a sign that the person holding the firearm effed up.
I took “accidental discharges” to mean live rounds instead of blanks, but that may have been wrong on my part.
I have read of many accidental discharges with older single action revolvers. A hammer slipping out from under the thumb when cocking, a drop into the hammer, or even a stirrup dropping off a saddle horn and hitting the hammer on the holstered gun. It was why they encouraged only loading five rounds but even that would not be fool proof.
I completely agree in re older single action revolvers. I’m sure that’s not what they’re using on movie sets, though.
When I wrote of “accidental discharges”, I meant any unintended firing of the weapon, whether live ammunition -- which should never, under any circumstances, be on the set -- or of blanks. With modern firearms, the gun went off because someone did something. They may not have meant it, but they did something to cause the AD.
The Big route and preceding shift took a lot out of me this week.
The emotional component plus the extra work. The mail run takes the most time of the whole shift, and now I have Coworker’s 450 extra papers in it.
She does appear to be on the mend.
I’m nervous about it though. Even Crazy Jolly ol England’s health ministry is reporting that now RNA altered vaxxed people are MORE likely to get the coof.
So I’m tempted to make a bulleted list of advantages and disadvantages, but it seems too obvious to be funny.
So Thursday/ Friday Took a lot out of me, but at least by then, I knew our carrier was on the mend, and the papers arrived on time, unlike on Tuesday.
I pretty much spent Friday afternoon revering from the week. Didn’t do much.
Now I’m going to Cottonwood to pick up some shelves for the garage..
Outside, there’s a solid cover of clouds overhead (it would be weird if they were inside) -- except for a narrow band of clear sky towards the coast. At the edge of that band, there’s a wall of clouds that looks like it’s just waiting to overwhelm us. Yet the weather-guessers tell us we won’t get rain until Monday. We’ll see.
Happy Caturday, GN!
I don’t know how Mac knows this about our vegetables; we don’t have a “smart fridge” here at CasaK. That’s just eerie…
I’m certainly no expert, but it seems there are different types of “ammo” used on sets. If there are closeups of a gun being loaded, there are cartridges with the primer and powder removed for just that purpose. Then there are what we commonly think of as “blanks” (which make a bang with muzzle flash and smoke) which appear to look like mini shotshells with crimped wax at the end of the brass and no bullet.
You can bet that whatever did actually occur on the “Rust” set, asses will be covered…especially Arec Barwin’s as the star and producer. (Been interesting to see some of Barwin’s more vicious Tweets about guns / gun owners come back to haunt him.)
FWIW, SiL said that up until last week, crew folks here in ATL have been pressured into working ridiculously long hours and there’s been at least one serious injury as a result of -- in SiL’s considered opinion -- physical and mental exhaustion. (From what we’ve heard about the local situation, I think he’s right.)
There’s no business like show business…amirite?
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Officially the first NFT meme I’ve seen, at least consciously.
Good morning, Fatwa -- happy weekend, GN.
Mac’s thread pic makes feel guilty. I promise, vegetables, to do better. Not a joke.
I think Alec Baldwin might not escape this time -- he’s been damaged goods for a while now, and if the left needs a lamb to sacrifice to show how moral they are, he’d make a good one as his usefulness is more or less over.
Has anyone read the report on the mounted Border Patrol agents whipping Haitians? Another incident memory-holed, but I wonder how those particular agents are doing.
Happy Caturday, Gerbil Nation!
Good morning, Fatwa, and Sven!
In re Alec Baldwin: I know that the wadding (wax or paper) in a blank round is enough to cause death if fired into one’s temple, but at any reasonable distance shouldn’t cause any injury. So how is it Alec managed to kill one person and wound another? Of course if proper firearms safety rules were followed, none of this would have occurred.
I heard yesterday that the union crew walked off the set some time ago because of working conditions, including making them drive an hour from the set to their motel rooms in Albuquerque, rather than put them up locally in Santa Fe.
Given Baldwin’s problems with alcohol in the past, I hope he was checked.
Always interesting how the rich Hollywood types are big union supporters and for “living” wages until they are paying. Then it is a different story.
The person controlling firearms and ammunition in a setting where many people are mixing around should be a top professional. I don’t get that impression from what I see so far, but I have seen few details. It just seems unclear if it was being covered by a weapons specialist or a prop master.
“…Most pertinent was their qualms with safety protocols including gun inspections, not being strictly followed on set. At least one of the camera operators reportedly complained last weekend to a production manager about gun safety on the set. The LAT reports that someone on set was alarmed by the prop gun misfires and communicated their concerns to the unit production manager via text message. “We’ve now had 3 accidental discharges. This is super unsafe,” according to a copy of the message reviewed by the LAT.”
It sounds like this low budget film just went WAY over budget. The armorer was a woman who had earlier expressed doubts that she was ready for this but said it was easier than she expected. With three previous discharges it was obviously not as easy as she thought.
The union workers being kicked off set that morning raises eyebrows, but if this is all accurate, the lawyers will be circling like sharks to chum. It reminds me of an accident where a Coke delivery truck’s brakes failed coming into a town. There were rthree waves of lawyers goming into the town. They were stopping people on the streets and asking them if they even knew someone that was hurt, and were they traumatized by that. Even the truck driver ended up suing Coke because he drove a truck with bad brakes. .
I was just reading a couple of articles on the search warrant served on the set. Why would an actor, or anyone else on a set, complain about misfires? This is a movie set in the 19th century. We’re talking single-action revolvers, lever action rifles, and mule-eared double-barreled shotguns. So what if the gun doesn’t go bang when you pull the trigger? It’s not like they need that sound for the final cut. Cock the hammer and fire again, pretending it fired. “[A]ccidental discharges”?? WTH is going on on that set? Given the type of firearms they should have been using, there is no way to have an accidental discharge. Even if the trigger pull was very light, you cocked the weapon and had your finger on the trigger. An AD is a sign that the person holding the firearm effed up.
I took “accidental discharges” to mean live rounds instead of blanks, but that may have been wrong on my part.
I have read of many accidental discharges with older single action revolvers. A hammer slipping out from under the thumb when cocking, a drop into the hammer, or even a stirrup dropping off a saddle horn and hitting the hammer on the holstered gun. It was why they encouraged only loading five rounds but even that would not be fool proof.
I completely agree in re older single action revolvers. I’m sure that’s not what they’re using on movie sets, though.
When I wrote of “accidental discharges”, I meant any unintended firing of the weapon, whether live ammunition -- which should never, under any circumstances, be on the set -- or of blanks. With modern firearms, the gun went off because someone did something. They may not have meant it, but they did something to cause the AD.
The Big route and preceding shift took a lot out of me this week.
The emotional component plus the extra work. The mail run takes the most time of the whole shift, and now I have Coworker’s 450 extra papers in it.
She does appear to be on the mend.
I’m nervous about it though. Even
CrazyJolly ol England’s health ministry is reporting that nowRNA alteredvaxxed people are MORE likely to get the coof.So I’m tempted to make a bulleted list of advantages and disadvantages, but it seems too obvious to be funny.
So Thursday/ Friday Took a lot out of me, but at least by then, I knew our carrier was on the mend, and the papers arrived on time, unlike on Tuesday.
I pretty much spent Friday afternoon revering from the week. Didn’t do much.
Now I’m going to Cottonwood to pick up some shelves for the garage..
Wish me luck.
also, thanks for all your prayers and well wishes. I feel like you guys are my personal prayer circle sometimes.
It’s appreciated.
Any time, dv8! That’s what we’re here for. Good luck with the shelving trip.
Outside, there’s a solid cover of clouds overhead (it would be weird if they were inside) -- except for a narrow band of clear sky towards the coast. At the edge of that band, there’s a wall of clouds that looks like it’s just waiting to overwhelm us. Yet the weather-guessers tell us we won’t get rain until Monday. We’ll see.