I have no doubts at all that this was the plan, either ordered specifically or as a general order to create as much drama for the propaganda organs to exploit as possible. Barring a group of veterans who had flown in on the Freedom Flight was a wonderful photo op as long as it could be blamed on the Republicans. That they botched it so badly is just typical of these peoples’ incompetence. The Clintons had better liars and spin doctors, though they demanded more of them than anyone could deliver. At least it did expose the lack of honesty and integrity of some people who were prominent in politics and the news media after they the Clintons left (carting of loads of swag, of course.) Some people like David Gergen and Dee Dee Myers showed they had too much honesty or integrity (or shame) to serve very long with the Clintons. The Clintons liked to trade on the reputations of honest people but you could not serve them and retain that. They could not trust honest people who were not bound to silence.
The Clintons had better liars and spin doctors, though they demanded more of them than anyone could deliver.
Indeed…*snerk*
I’ve come to the point where I believe the highest compliment I could pay to any public official is that they’re “relatively useless”.
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The Gainesville, GA School District (about 30 miles north of us) is considering the purchase of a pair of Colt 6920s. The money quote:
The plan in Gainesville would be for the district to buy two Colt 6920 M4 carbines and keep them in locked safes equipped with fingerprint locks, so only one person – the school resource officer – could have access. The weapons would be stored in the resource officer’s car trunk when no students are at school.
All a malefactor would have to do is take out the SRO while he’s carrying them into school from his trunk in the morning. Bad guy(s) instantly armed with two rifles…and no opposition.
I am dubious about assault rifles in this role. I think more handguns and shotguns would be better suited and safer. If a semi-auto carbine is to be used it should be in a handgun caliber. Rifles simply have too much penetration to be used in a school full of children . I also think one or two armed persons is just not realistic and as you point out, one known person having access becomes a large point of vulnerability.
There have been a number of shootings that were stopped by armed citizens or school faculty members but I think all of them were with handguns and the people having them were not known ahead of time. Several school shootings went on longer than needed because the person stopping the bad guy had to go off campus to retrieve his weapon. The delay cost innocent lives but still more were saved.
A number of trained teachers or staff having concealed weapons would be more effective in protecting students from monsters. If long guns are to be stored in case of need they should be shotguns loaded with bird shot or small buckshot or pistol caliber carbines. I would lean towards lever action or slide action carbines in .357 Magnum caliber with 125 grain hollow points or .38 Special +P cartridges with the same type of bullets. In skilled hands a semi-auto carbine can be very effective but that level of skill is hard to find and the semi-auto carbines in pistol calibers are mostly designed for rapid fire rather than accuracy. An exception might be pistol caliber adapters for the AR platform. I would still prefer a manual action to resist the temptation for spray and pray shooting. This is not a reflection on teachers as I feel the same about law enforcement other than special SWAT units. If I recall, one of the reasons the police took so long to secure Columbine was that when they initially went to enter, before most of the victims had been shot, they went in in two teams from two sides. One of the officers played Rambo and fired a wild burst from an automatic weapon around a corner. This caused the other team to report they were taking fire from automatic weapons and both teams were ordered to withdraw.
I don’t remember where I read this so it might be BS but it fits with other abuse or misuse of these weapons by officers not selected and trained properly in their use.
Just my opinion. Whatever is done it will not be handled in the best way, politics will see to that. Let’s just hope somebody with a little knowledge makes the calls.
It sounds like a token gesture. “See, we had guns and it didn’t help because they hit another school and by the time we got there it was over and the police were there.”
I don’t know why else they would have one man controlling two guns to cover 8 schools. I didn’t realize there were that many there.
I’ve been beating off (heh) roving bands of feral federal unemployees. They keep coming up my street slowing chanting, “vaaaacaaaation, beeeeneeefiiits, fleeeextiiime,” so I’ve had to kill them. Each and every one. I can’t say I have enjoyed it, ’cause NSA, but I haven’t unenjoyed it either.
I cried my heart out over a poor federal unemployee interviewed on the news because she was emoting over her fellow workers not being able to eat out or pick up their dry-cleaning. DRY-CLEANING!!! Oh, the sacrifices those poor people must make.
Har! Much mean-spirited chortling here in Happy -- and Disagreeable -- Larryville. 😉
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I propose that we make all federal employees wear naught but sack cloth to work, dine upon nothing but peanut butter, über-cheap white bread (the sort where a one pound loaf is about two feet long) and iceberg lettuce. Maybe a banana or two per week.
Further, their annual health plan consists only of four toothbrushes, a large box of adhesive bandages, a bottle of aspirin, a magnifying glass, a box of Ex-Lax and some tweezers.
Adjust their salaries appropriately; profit! (Okay…slightly less hemorrhaging.)
Good evening brothers and sisters of the last days. Rather surprisingly, things are still calm in the SoCal area, but you can feel the underlying tension beginning to rise. Hopefully cooler heads will prevail until I can buy more ammunition.
Hump day O grabbing!
Good morning, Rabbit!
Good morning, Gerbil Nation!
Good morning, RabBiT and Sven!
Mac -- canned Hello Fruiti? Those Japanese are wee-yurd!
Happy Hump Day and Day 2 of the CasaK “FY, TW!” Festival of Civil Disobedience, GN!
G’morning, RabBeet, Sven & Paddy!
I was pleasantly surprised that, despite the non-shutdown-shutdown, the sun came up as usual, revealing still-extant roads and sidewalks.
I wonder if there’s fur in each and every can of Hello Kitty soda. (Nice find, Mac.)
“It’s Kitty-licious!!!1!”
The Hello Kitty beer seemed to fit today.
Fruit-flavored Hello Kitty beer???!??
That is so very, very wrong.
Why yes, yes it is. Thank you very much!
* Proudly polishes his nails*
Mac --
Several sources are claiming that an NPS spokestool told them the Barrycading™ of the WWII monument was ordered by the White House OMB.
I have no doubts at all that this was the plan, either ordered specifically or as a general order to create as much drama for the propaganda organs to exploit as possible. Barring a group of veterans who had flown in on the Freedom Flight was a wonderful photo op as long as it could be blamed on the Republicans. That they botched it so badly is just typical of these peoples’ incompetence. The Clintons had better liars and spin doctors, though they demanded more of them than anyone could deliver. At least it did expose the lack of honesty and integrity of some people who were prominent in politics and the news media after they the Clintons left (carting of loads of swag, of course.) Some people like David Gergen and Dee Dee Myers showed they had too much honesty or integrity (or shame) to serve very long with the Clintons. The Clintons liked to trade on the reputations of honest people but you could not serve them and retain that. They could not trust honest people who were not bound to silence.
Indeed…*snerk*
I’ve come to the point where I believe the highest compliment I could pay to any public official is that they’re “relatively useless”.
The Gainesville, GA School District (about 30 miles north of us) is considering the purchase of a pair of Colt 6920s. The money quote:
All a malefactor would have to do is take out the SRO while he’s carrying them into school from his trunk in the morning. Bad guy(s) instantly armed with two rifles…and no opposition.
Awesome plan.
I am dubious about assault rifles in this role. I think more handguns and shotguns would be better suited and safer. If a semi-auto carbine is to be used it should be in a handgun caliber. Rifles simply have too much penetration to be used in a school full of children . I also think one or two armed persons is just not realistic and as you point out, one known person having access becomes a large point of vulnerability.
There have been a number of shootings that were stopped by armed citizens or school faculty members but I think all of them were with handguns and the people having them were not known ahead of time. Several school shootings went on longer than needed because the person stopping the bad guy had to go off campus to retrieve his weapon. The delay cost innocent lives but still more were saved.
A number of trained teachers or staff having concealed weapons would be more effective in protecting students from monsters. If long guns are to be stored in case of need they should be shotguns loaded with bird shot or small buckshot or pistol caliber carbines. I would lean towards lever action or slide action carbines in .357 Magnum caliber with 125 grain hollow points or .38 Special +P cartridges with the same type of bullets. In skilled hands a semi-auto carbine can be very effective but that level of skill is hard to find and the semi-auto carbines in pistol calibers are mostly designed for rapid fire rather than accuracy. An exception might be pistol caliber adapters for the AR platform. I would still prefer a manual action to resist the temptation for spray and pray shooting. This is not a reflection on teachers as I feel the same about law enforcement other than special SWAT units. If I recall, one of the reasons the police took so long to secure Columbine was that when they initially went to enter, before most of the victims had been shot, they went in in two teams from two sides. One of the officers played Rambo and fired a wild burst from an automatic weapon around a corner. This caused the other team to report they were taking fire from automatic weapons and both teams were ordered to withdraw.
I don’t remember where I read this so it might be BS but it fits with other abuse or misuse of these weapons by officers not selected and trained properly in their use.
Just my opinion. Whatever is done it will not be handled in the best way, politics will see to that. Let’s just hope somebody with a little knowledge makes the calls.
I pretty much concur that handguns and shotguns in the hands of staffers with some sort of training would be much more effective.
And why does it make any sense to have only one school (out of eight, per their website) “armed” with those rifles?
It sounds like a token gesture. “See, we had guns and it didn’t help because they hit another school and by the time we got there it was over and the police were there.”
I don’t know why else they would have one man controlling two guns to cover 8 schools. I didn’t realize there were that many there.
I’m guessing a particularly dull-witted confluence of cop-think and educator-think.
GOOD AFTERNOON/EVENING EVERYONE!
Greetings from more delightful than ever before Bountiful.
I sure do hope y’all are having a great day, ’cause you just know I am.
I’ve been beating off (heh) roving bands of feral federal unemployees. They keep coming up my street slowing chanting, “vaaaacaaaation, beeeeneeefiiits, fleeeextiiime,” so I’ve had to kill them. Each and every one. I can’t say I have enjoyed it, ’cause NSA, but I haven’t unenjoyed it either.
I cried my heart out over a poor federal unemployee interviewed on the news because she was emoting over her fellow workers not being able to eat out or pick up their dry-cleaning. DRY-CLEANING!!! Oh, the sacrifices those poor people must make.
Har! Much mean-spirited chortling here in Happy -- and Disagreeable -- Larryville. 😉
I propose that we make all federal employees wear naught but sack cloth to work, dine upon nothing but peanut butter, über-cheap white bread (the sort where a one pound loaf is about two feet long) and iceberg lettuce. Maybe a banana or two per week.
Further, their annual health plan consists only of four toothbrushes, a large box of adhesive bandages, a bottle of aspirin, a magnifying glass, a box of Ex-Lax and some tweezers.
Adjust their salaries appropriately; profit! (Okay…slightly less hemorrhaging.)
Good evening brothers and sisters of the last days. Rather surprisingly, things are still calm in the SoCal area, but you can feel the underlying tension beginning to rise. Hopefully cooler heads will prevail until I can buy more ammunition.